BAKASSI : We ‘re not interested in declaration of sovereignty -Ita Giwa
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BAKASSI : We ‘re not interested in declaration of sovereignty -Ita Giwa

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By Emmanuel Aziken, Political Editor

Though she was never a journalist, Senator Florence Ita-Giwa is, however, etched on a special platform in the history of the profession in the country. Brought up by a mother, Mma Bassey Ita, who was one of the first women to make a name in the profession, she subsequently married Mr. Dele Giwa, who himself became an icon of the profession towards the end of the last century.
Senator Ita-Giwa has, however, made a name for herself in other endeavours notably politics where she rose to become a senator and subsequently, Special Adviser to the President on National Assembly Matters.
Since she left office she has devoted her time to children charity following perhaps in line with her advocacy for the interest of the people of Bakassi, through which she got the nickname, Mama Bakassi.
In this interview with Vanguard, Senator Ita-Giwa narrates how the challenges she faced in the Anyim Senate strengthened her, discusses her present devotions to children charity and reflects on her experiences in the Olusegun Obasanjo administration, affirming that the legacies of the former President are yet unmatched.
She also canvasses support for the present Special Adviser to the President on National Assembly Matters, Senator Joy Emodi, affirming that Emodi’s success in pulling through the gender unfriendly Anambra political grounds would help her succeed. Excerpts:

After the presidential election campaigns, you have been lying low. Why?
Well, I have been very, very busy trying to ensure that my people are properly resettled. Currently, I am trying to organise my usual charity ball to raise money to get more children into my home, more displaced children from Bakassi into my house so that I can further do things that will improve their lives, educate them and give them hope for tomorrow. So, there are still many things that one is doing at the moment that I cannot begin to enumerate. Right now, I am in the South-South, trying to create awareness, I am going round to the South-South Governors to get them involved in my programme for the children of Bakassi.

How many children are you taking care of now under your charity programme?
Currently I have ten children directly under the programme who are now in one of the best schools in the South-South, The Access School. It was like my pilot programme and it has enjoyed tremendous success. I can say that today we can look at it as a success story because the children have done very well in school and they are growing properly and take good positions in their classes. The children appreciate what one has done for them and they are utilizing the opportunity very well.

Now, I am working on taking another twenty which will raise the number of children to thirty. I wish I could take a hundred but I am working on that. There are many children that need that opportunity to be taken out of the swamps to be put in good schools.

After serving in the Presidential Campaign Council can you say that you are satisfied with the work of President Jonathan and his deputy in office?

Well, I did all that I did for my political party which is the strongest party in Africa to win the election and I did that also because I felt that my party had the best candidate and we had a very, very good material I felt will bring peace and unity to this country. Most importantly, I was very active in that process because I also wanted to contribute my efforts for us to strengthen this democratic process.

That election remains the most transparent election till date. What I did wasn’t for any gain or appointment. I was also moved by the active role the wife, (Dame Patience Jonathan) played to ensure that her husband won the election, I had no choice but to support her.

*Ita-Giwa

Do you think the first lady has any contribution to governance?
I think she contributed very well to her husband’s election. I believe she could play more important roles by ensuring that women of this country are actively engaged in politics. Although women have been given more roles in the government, but I think she should not rest, she should continue to enlighten Nigerian women and build up their confidence.

Elective positions

It is not only in appointments, but also in elective positions. She should ensure that women do better than they did this time. There should be programmes to strengthen the confidence of women for them to take part actively in politics.

How would you react to insinuations from some persons including Gen. Ibrahim Babangida that the Obasanjo administration which you served was a failure?

I do not believe in joining issues especially with my leaders that I have respect for and that also includes Gen. Babangida. But in my own opinion as somebody who worked closely in the last four years of the Obasanjo administration, I think to me it remains the best administration so far. I don’t have to join issues with anybody. People have their problems and that is personal, but in my own opinion working with that man 24/7 I know how much commitment and passion he brought to his job.

Obasanjo is passionate about Nigeria he is just a misunderstood person, but that is my own opinion and I will not shy away from that and in my own opinion to date it remains the best administration so far. Let us watch what will happen now and I hope people will come together to also help this present democratic administration match the Obasanjo administration in terms of actualization of programmes. Nobody is 100% perfect but in my own opinion, it remains the best administration.

There have been speculations that some elements within the PDP in Cross River could challenge Governor Imoke for the party’s ticket. Where do you stand on the issue?

I do not react to gossip because as far as I am concerned I have not seen anybody that has openly come out to say that he is going to challenge Imoke. However, it is not out of place for there to be opposition in a healthy democracy. Although Cross River State has remained a politically peaceful state, but then I do not quarrel with the opposition because it is only healthy in a democracy. However, it is up to the incumbent Governor to ensure that he actualizes his dreams and aspirations and ensure that he carries out projects and programmes that are important that will further endear him to the people so that he can have an easy ride.

Peoples” aspirations

It is for him to ensure that he does things that will endear him more to the people, meet people’s needs and aspirations.
As a major political stakeholder in Cross River, do you think the Governor has done sufficiently enough to warrant a second term?
It is not for me to judge whether or not the Governor has done sufficiently well. First of all, you will appreciate the fact that Cross River State is not as economically buoyant as other states. There are challenges which the Governor has had to meet.

I am not in a position to defend or campaign for the Governor, but all I am saying is that under the circumstances the Governor should try to make sure that he meets the needs and aspirations of the people. It is too early in the day for me to say whether he has done well or not. I am a Christian and I cannot judge people like that.

As a political leader you listen to your followers, what are they telling you? The Governor has spent four years there?

When the time comes, I will address the issue.

How are you meeting the challenge of taking care of the children you have adopted?

It has been very, very difficult. Normally, I organize my charity balls where we raise money and actually, the children have become like my children now, though the challenges are there.

Though, I wish I could just go there and pick up a hundred more children. There are thousands of children looking for opportunities for education, for healthcare and so on. I am currently preparing for another red ball from which I wish to raise money to further meet the needs but its been very difficult, being that I have had to carry out most of the responsibilities single handedly.

Have you tried to draw the consciousness of the elites in the country to do similar things you are now doing?

Among the elites, for those God has given the opportunity to do well in life I think it is only proper that we give back to society what God has given to us because today, I have a name not only in Nigeria and it is because of what I have done for my community, and with all sense of modesty, it is because of my political success and this political success came out of the support of the people, the masses. So, it is only proper that I try to give back and try to create more Ita-Giwas from the area.

With hindsight is there one thing you wish you could have done better as a Special Adviser to the President?
I think what I tried to do as Adviser to the President on National Assembly matters was to try and establish some level of cordiality and collaboration between the executive and the legislature. I will also say with some sense of modesty that I did succeed during that period.

I did four years of sleepless nights ensuring that projects were executed, ensuring that every issue that came from the executive to the National Assembly that needed immediate attention was given that attention by ensuring the collaboration between the two arms of government.

Under the circumstances there is nothing more that I could have done at the time, but as a politician, I still have my hopes and aspirations for this country, I am praying that we enjoy a peaceful country, that security and infrastructure issues are handled and then.

Political career

I am still working because I am not finished with my political career yet. I have not finished, I am taking a break to address my charity issues definitely I shall come back to the active scene. For now, I am in the background pursuing my charity causes which are very, very close to my heart.

What is your opinion on the proposal for a single term for the President and Governors? Is there any relationship with the third term proposal that came up while you were Special Adviser to the President?

I do not want to reduce it to tenure elongation or as some people are trying to do, to link it to third term.

If people sit together and say that a one term tenure of six years is healthy, is good for the country so that people go there and put their all in that six years, yes I will support it. Yes, I will support it if it is a single tenure that will allow people put in all efforts to ensure that they succeed during that period.

Some people tend to go to sleep knowing that they have a second term, so if that single term will work for this country, will make people stay active and ensure that they carry out all the electoral promises, yes, I will support it.

Another woman, Senator Joy Emodi has stepped into your former office with universal goodwill. What advise would you give her in the discharge of her duties?

Senator Joy Emodi is a very experienced politician and also a very, very experienced lawmaker because she has been my colleague from when we were in the Constitutional Conference.

Political experience

I think with her wealth of political experience and if a woman can climb in a very gender unfriendly place where she comes from (Anambra State) and she has managed to climb to this level, then I think that she will be able to succeed. The best thing for her to do is to continue making sure that that cordiality and collaboration continues and ensure that the members of the National Assembly are always well informed of any programme from the embryonic stage, not when the issue is almost concluded.

People want to be carried along and given information. When they get information, they are ready to go along. Mind you, those people are the representatives of the Nigerian people. So, for effective representation, they have to be part of whatsoever decision is taken in this country, so once you ensure that, she will succeed.

I remember when you were almost brought to tears by the political conflict you had with the Senate leadership under Senator Anyim Pius Anyim. Have you put that behind?

Those were my dark days but at the end of the day I was able to come out and God helped me to see the light because I knew that there was light at the end of the tunnel and it did come up. Those are the things that you must experience as a politician that will make you stronger and that is why I still remain standing in this country. All those things really strengthened me. And today, Anyim is my friend and I am glad that he is Secretary to the Government and he will do well. In politics, we reconcile.

    • 12 years ago

    Ita-Giwa should hide her face in shame for being part of those that sold her people a and put them in the present predicament.

    • 12 years ago

    People like ita Giwa,ar not suppose to speak on any matter of the state. She does not hve any iota of shame. She sold her own very people that made her what she is today an stil hve the mind to speak in public. Shame unto her.

    • 12 years ago

    Anyone can adopt a place ax home in the absence of the owner. Ita Giwa’s claim of being Mama Bakassi does not mean she was birn there. In originally advocating issues on Bakassi crisis she exploited the people’s confidence and sold them out to be evicted by President Obasanjo. It was like believing that since shewas right there in the corridors of Aso Rock her people would be safe. NOW AFTER LOSING HER JOB SHE IS GOING AROUND THE SOUTH SOUTH COLLECTING DONATIONS FROM THE GOVERNORS AND LIVING LARGE.

    Bakassi People should be naive to expect thatsfter she had turned them into refugees she can now repair the damage she had collaborated with Obasanjo to caused. Granted that she is using ten school children to collect donations on behalf of Bakassi People, what about the parents, the grand parents, the aged, the fishermen, the youths, the unemployed? And she has the courage to state that the people are not interested in sovereignty. Of course, when the people were on their soil Ita Giwa was uninterested in protecting their farms or fishing ports because there were no donations to be collected. she is not interested in self determination because she was a fake advocate who does not want to rock the boat byspeaking up for the people. she is the proverbial ostrich that hides her head in the sand to duck the storm. If she cannot side with the people what moral right does she have to collect donations on behalf of their children? the truth is that Cross River State saw Bakassi Peninsula as an insignificant rural fishing camp. It is after they lost out as litoral state that their eyes were opened. Even now Governor Imoke is more interested in the Revenue Derivation from Oil Wells in adjoining Akwa Ibom offshore than reclaiming the fishing ports at Bakassi Peninsula. None of the Cross River elites backed the resistance and rights of Bakassi rural people when Obasanjo ceded their land. General Abacha is treated as a villain but he was a greater patriot by far than General Obasanjo.

    What does Ita Giwa boast of under Obasanjo who allowed Nigeria’s refineries to die becuase he preferred to import products from abrad? Is it the devaluation of the Naira from 22 to one dollar under Abacha to 131 when he left office? Is it the hike in fuel price under Obasanjo? Is it the printing of high denomination Naira notes for kick-back? Is it the removal from office and killing of Chuba Okadigbo? Is it thedepletion of foreign reserves in the dying days of Obasanjo’s third term ambition? What can Ita Giwa show as her contribution to the development in Cross River other than the loss of Bakassi to France without going to war? She made enough money for her self by claiming to be Mama Bakasi.

    • 12 years ago

    Hello. excellent job. I did not expect this. This is a fantastic story. Thanks!

    • 12 years ago

    One particular sees wonderful things from the valley only small issues from the peak.

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